In this episode, we chat with the incomparable Jennifer Logue and get a brief introduction to Rock on Philly, an awesome Philly based website that aims to spread the gospel of the Philly music scene. Among a few different topics, she highlights their current push to get a grant to expand the site. Please click the link below to help out, it takes just a minute.
After we chat with Jen, I have my long awaited interview with Jamie DeWolf. Jamie is the great grandson of L. Ron Hubbard and a strong advocate against Scientology. Jamie is a a film maker and performer. He’s also a great person to chat with. Below is the YouTube video of the performance included in the episode.
Enjoy the episode, it’s one of my favorites.
EDIT: Original upload was missing a minute of two or talking and our hilariously awesome closing song, so redownload or stream the end or whatever.
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Podcast: Rock and Scientology, featuring Jamie DeWolf
Exciting news while we're waiting for bigger exciting news. :shrug:
Ridley Scott Productions to set a writers room for the mini-series drama
Strange Angel [aka Marvel] in advance of a series order by AMC network.
"Screenwriter Mark Heyman is a writer on the series. Heyman wrote The Skeleton Twins and Black Swan,
so Parsons’ story is in good hands. Marvel[Strange Angel] has real promise as a series. A show about a rocket
engineer, chemist, and inventor that hung with L. Ron Hubbard is a series I’d watch."
Phil Jones, known as “Sid” here at the Bunker, has been kicking up a fuss at Scientology’s Los Angeles facilities lately. He and his wife Willie are former church members who are determined to see their children, Mike and Emily, who are still in Scientology and have disconnected from them. Scientology attorneys recently sent a cease-and-desist order to Phil and Willie after they put up “Missing” posters of Mike around the Hollywood Celebrity Centre, and even brought a television film crew with them.
Now, they plan to go really big with their missing person sign. They’re trying to raise $8,200 at a GoFundMe page and website so they can put up a billboard on Hollywood Boulevard. And it will target disconnection in general, so it won’t only be about their two kids.
“I usually don’t like fund raising,” Phil tells us. “But we want to step things up a bit in trying to get the kids back.”
Wow. We wish them luck.
UPDATE: Mike Rinder messaged us to point out that the middle of the three women wearing “Crap Nebula” T-shirts is ASI employee Emily Jones.
Sorry for going against the general direction here.
My premise is that I respect all opinions and I sympathize with the people who have been harmed while being part of scientology. Myself I have been the object of family disconnection, fair game, Sea Org deprivation and special style of motivation (thanks again Mariette Lindstein for your "positive and uptone" management...).
Yet, the basics and the technology of auditing, in my opinion, do work or at the least have worked on me. Ten years after having left the cult (this is what it is now the C.of S.) I have continued up the "bridge" on the advance levels almost through solo nots. I have been continuing by myself. No membership to a group, just studying the materials available and go hunt for the new ones and apply the procedures. I was mid nots when I left. I basically did solo nots. I was a trained auditor.
I used the scientology basics in my profession. I blended them though with common sense and what I may define as "ethical wog principles": do not harm, win win, synergize, etc.
I built feww successful businesses in more than one industry. I am happy and life has been a ball.
In my opinion this has been possible because i was outside church suppression and I just tried to keep what worked and throw away what didn't.
My take out: basic scientology principles ( i am not necessarily saying hcob and hcopl that are not principles but application systems) do work and can change one life for the bettter. At least they did for me.
Solo Nots done outside the church's influence does work if you are an auditor trained. Or at least it did work for me.
I wanted to just give a different or contrarian viewpoint. No desire to offend or to make wrong.
Total respect but mind that I am an SP so I think the other way.
And finally I wanna thank all of you guys because for many years you have been my support team.
Long life to ESMB.
SD
Thanks to Scientology Basics I have become a millionaire
Saint Tikhon's Orthodox University: Scientology & the CIA.
I am cross-posting the following not because I agree with the thesis or analysis, but because I believe it may reflect the view of the Russian Orthodox Church, and perhaps also the government of Russia, on Scientology.
This presentation was read by Aleksandr Leonidovich Dvorkin, president of the Irinaeus of Lyons Center for Religious Research Studies, on January 26th, 2016, at a conference run by the Orthodox St. Tikhon University for the Humanities. (Translator’s note: While we wouldn’t claim that the Church of Scientology is an integral element of the US Intelligence Community, Dvorkin’s lecture is an excellent expose of the nexus between the Western power structure, its intelligence apparatus and dangerous cults).
The topic of Scientology’s connection to the CIA became commonplace long ago. It’s mentioned in a mass of articles, interviews, and television programs. But when I referred to this in passing during a conversation with one journalist several months ago, he took interest: do I have irrefutable evidence of or clues to this connection? Could I, so to say, point to a “smoking gun?”
The question interested me, and I decided to try and collect materials on this topic. So can we bring irrefutable evidence?
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At the beginning of the 1990s. Greek police raided the office of Scientology in Athens and seized there are many sects of internal documents, some of which were published. Some of them contain references to the assistance that the CIA has foreign offices of Scientology.
Saint Tikhon's Orthodox University of Humanities(Russian:Православный Свято-Тихоновский гуманитарный университет) inMoscow,Russiais acoeducationaltheologicaluniversity for thelaityaffiliated with theRussian Orthodox Church. The university, established in 1991, is Russia's first theological graduate-level school for the lay men and women, unlike traditional Orthodoxseminariespreparing male students forordination. It is the only Orthodox institution in Russia that is accredited to issue generally accepteddiplomas. Ten departments of the university provide education in theology, history, teaching, missionary practice, religious arts and music, economics, social services and information management. Basic theology studies are mandatory for students of all departments. Admission does not require adherence to Orthodox faith or any religious tests, except for theiconschool where applicants should demonstrate skills in traditional Orthodox art.
Alexander Leonidovich Dvorkin (Russian: Александр Леонидович Дворкин; born 20 August 1955, Moscow) is a Russiananti-cult activist, former clergyman of the Russian Orthodox Church,[1] president of the Saint Ireneus of Lyons Informational Consultative Center,[2] an anti-cult organisation affiliated to the Russian Orthodox Church[3] and since 2009 Vice-President ofEuropean Federation of Centres of Research and Information on Sectarianism (FECRIS), umbrella organization for anti-cult groups in Europe.[1] Dvorkin graduated Doctor of Philosophy in 1983 at the Saint Vladimir's Orthodox Theological Seminaryin Crestwood, New York. He has appeared on Russian television.[4]In 1993 with blessing of Patriarch Alexy II he established Russian anti-cult organization currently called Association of Centres for the Study of Religions and Sects (RATsIRS). From that time on he is extremely active in opposing non-Orthodox religions and movements through his publications.[1]Dvorkin is a critic of Scientology, which he regards as a dangerous cult. Church of Scientology-affiliated organizations describe him as an "anti-religious extremist," and compile negative information about him on their websites. In 1997, Scientology and several other new religious movements sued Dvorkin and the Russian Orthodox Church for defamation, but their case was dismissed.[5]
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Orthodox St. Tikhon University: Scientology & the CIA.
I am cross-posting the following not because I agree with the thesis or analysis, but because I believe it may reflect the view of the Russian Orthodox Church, and perhaps also the government of Russia, on Scientology.
This presentation was read by Aleksandr Leonidovich Dvorkin, president of the Irinaeus of Lyons Center for Religious Research Studies, on January 26th, 2016, at a conference run by the Orthodox St. Tikhon University for the Humanities. (Translator’s note: While we wouldn’t claim that the Church of Scientology is an integral element of the US Intelligence Community, Dvorkin’s lecture is an excellent expose of the nexus between the Western power structure, its intelligence apparatus and dangerous cults).
The topic of Scientology’s connection to the CIA became commonplace long ago. It’s mentioned in a mass of articles, interviews, and television programs. But when I referred to this in passing during a conversation with one journalist several months ago, he took interest: do I have irrefutable evidence of or clues to this connection? Could I, so to say, point to a “smoking gun?”
The question interested me, and I decided to try and collect materials on this topic. So can we bring irrefutable evidence?
Saint Tikhon's Orthodox University of Humanities(Russian:Православный Свято-Тихоновский гуманитарный университет) inMoscow,Russiais acoeducationaltheologicaluniversity for thelaityaffiliated with theRussian Orthodox Church. The university, established in 1991, is Russia's first theological graduate-level school for the lay men and women, unlike traditional Orthodoxseminariespreparing male students forordination. It is the only Orthodox institution in Russia that is accredited to issue generally accepteddiplomas. Ten departments of the university provide education in theology, history, teaching, missionary practice, religious arts and music, economics, social services and information management. Basic theology studies are mandatory for students of all departments. Admission does not require adherence to Orthodox faith or any religious tests, except for theiconschool where applicants should demonstrate skills in traditional Orthodox art.
Alexander Leonidovich Dvorkin (Russian: Александр Леонидович Дворкин; born 20 August 1955, Moscow) is a Russiananti-cult activist, former clergyman of the Russian Orthodox Church,[1] president of the Saint Ireneus of Lyons Informational Consultative Center,[2] an anti-cult organisation affiliated to the Russian Orthodox Church[3] and since 2009 Vice-President ofEuropean Federation of Centres of Research and Information on Sectarianism (FECRIS), umbrella organization for anti-cult groups in Europe.[1] Dvorkin graduated Doctor of Philosophy in 1983 at the Saint Vladimir's Orthodox Theological Seminaryin Crestwood, New York. He has appeared on Russian television.[4]In 1993 with blessing of Patriarch Alexy II he established Russian anti-cult organization currently called Association of Centres for the Study of Religions and Sects (RATsIRS). From that time on he is extremely active in opposing non-Orthodox religions and movements through his publications.[1]Dvorkin is a critic of Scientology, which he regards as a dangerous cult. Church of Scientology-affiliated organizations describe him as an "anti-religious extremist," and compile negative information about him on their websites. In 1997, Scientology and several other new religious movements sued Dvorkin and the Russian Orthodox Church for defamation, but their case was dismissed.[5]
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I remember a time when he was in PAC with his stupid dog. A messenger was taking the dog out + a Sea Org Member walked by the dog and that one barked at him NON STOP for a minute or two. I then continued my way and someone said to that messenger "If the dog reacted that way, it means the staff member must have some out ethics, crimes against COB" LOL :duh::duh: We must get HCO on it.
WTF ! Of course, it was DM's dog so he must be OT and knowing what is going on !! :dance3::dance3:
I am currently casting a documentary about addiction and scientology. If you or your family member left Scientology and is now currently addicted to drugs and/or alcohol, please email me at davidluckystars@gmail.com.
Thanks
Bryan
Looking for people who have left scientology and are now struggling with addiction
OK, here's one for all you geniuses who know all about fakery and trickery and whatever.
In my house - which is a modest two-storey building - I have a room set aside as my study/auditing room. I know pretty much what is in there and familiar with all of it.
Yesterday morning I go into the room (hadn't been in there all week - too busy with other things - and lying in plain sight on the floor is a Makita power drill. Brand new to all appearances, 710 watt drill. No box or chuck key, just the drill with its cord with a NZ type plug.
It's not mine. I have two other power drills and have no need of this. Besides I buy Bosch or AEG, German stuff, not Asian. So where did this come from? I have checked with everyone who lives here with me and with all of the (few) visitors I have had recently. All are as mystified as I am, and I don't believe any of them would surreptitiously plant such a thing here.
So where did this come from? How did it get here? When there's no one home the house is locked and it is fitted with movement detectors and is alarmed and all of that.
So what is this all about? I have it here before me, all bright and shiny. Where did it come from? How did it get here?
I get notifications from meetup.com for new groups from time to time.
I recently got a notification for a new meetup group about communication. At the Scientology Center on Saratoga Ave, San Jose. The organizer is a scientology "volunteer". "non-denominational, etc.
Keep an eye out for this new cover story to get people into scientology.
Hello everyone,
Well... It has been a long time since I came here. I don't remember my password and don't have access to my old email address which content mainly SPAM :):) to reset my password. Well I just created a new account.
My earlier one is 8-8008 if you want to know more about me.
Anyway, I managed today to get 2 answers from ASHO publics. Old friends, nice people. I found their email addresses and send them a communication to see. They answered and were pleased to hear from me.
At some point I asked them if they knew where VINNIE RUFFOLO was. I heard that his wife CARMEN was out of the SO, back in GERMANY (apparently) and that she is not with VINNIE anymore. She has no data except last he was in Texas. Looking around there, I found some phone numbers but they are not good anymore.
Anyone with data on Vinnie RUFFOLO AKA Vincenzo RUFFOLO ?
Please be sure to read the entire the story and watch the video.
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Shane tells us that their 2010 public coming out didn’t sit well with his parents, Martin and Christine Weightman, who are Scientology lifers and served stints in the Sea Org. Martin also is known for Scientology’s “European Office for Public Affairs and Human Rights,” opened in Belgium in 2003, where he was “human rights director,” and which was caught up in the lengthy fraud prosecution and now trial going on in Brussels. Martin is a defendant in the case. (Our man in Paris, Jonny Jacobsen, recently wrote about Martin’s testimony.)
Shane, like many who leave Scientology, faced the possibility that he would be “declared” a “suppressive person” and every member who wanted to stay in good standing would “disconnect” from him, even his own parents. But at first, he says, they didn’t do that. (Chrissie’s entire family is out and she’s in touch with all of them.)
Then, two years later, Shane’s parents disconnected. “They wanted to get back onlines,” Shane says, explaining that his parents, who lived in England, wanted to start taking courses again at the church there, and were given an ultimatum: Cut off ties with Shane and Chrissie, or you won’t be eligible for services. “My mom was the only one who called me. My dad just stopped talking to me. Mom said they were disconnecting, and it was on orders from OSA Int.”(The Office of Special Affairs is Scientology’s public relations and intelligence division.)
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Martin and Christine Weightman have Scientology disconnected from their son Shane
Poor Hannah Mets cannot find enough people in NY City/New Jersey, so has to get them from Texas? Is this because of the large population of Mexican immigrants in Texas who will sign up for staff with the promise of “guaranteed employment” in NYC? And if this IS so, why is Dallas ideal org not scooping them up? They have less than 50 staff in a 50,000+ sq ft building.
The FSO is getting all their recruits from Venezuela and rural Russia on the basis of offering them a ticket to the US, a religious worker immigrant visa, a job, a bed and 3 meals a day. For many this is like winning the lottery. 95% of all new recruits to the FSO are in this category. Maybe the “successful action” is filtering down?
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Scientology bringing people from Texas to work at the Church of Scientology of Harlem
Please be sure to read the entire the story and watch the video.
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Shane tells us that their 2010 public coming out didn’t sit well with his parents, Martin and Christine Weightman, who are Scientology lifers and served stints in the Sea Org. Martin also is known for Scientology’s “European Office for Public Affairs and Human Rights,” opened in Belgium in 2003, where he was “human rights director,” and which was caught up in the lengthy fraud prosecution and now trial going on in Brussels. Martin is a defendant in the case. (Our man in Paris, Jonny Jacobsen, recently wrote about Martin’s testimony.)
Shane, like many who leave Scientology, faced the possibility that he would be “declared” a “suppressive person” and every member who wanted to stay in good standing would “disconnect” from him, even his own parents. But at first, he says, they didn’t do that. (Chrissie’s entire family is out and she’s in touch with all of them.)
Then, two years later, Shane’s parents disconnected. “They wanted to get back onlines,” Shane says, explaining that his parents, who lived in England, wanted to start taking courses again at the church there, and were given an ultimatum: Cut off ties with Shane and Chrissie, or you won’t be eligible for services. “My mom was the only one who called me. My dad just stopped talking to me. Mom said they were disconnecting, and it was on orders from OSA Int.”(The Office of Special Affairs is Scientology’s public relations and intelligence division.)
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Martin and Christine Weightman have Scientology disconnected form their son Shane
An aspect of the disconnection process that isn't addressed enough is the slanderous /libelous behavior of the church. Because Hubbard has published his ideas that Scientology is above Wog law, he has opened the door for any number of abuses that would result in a lawsuit in a non-scientology business.
The big problem that Hubbard and all of the MAA's and EO's and especially OSA is that many of these people they are painting to be nasty SPs, is that they are in fact well thought of in the Scientology community. To suspend belief that the person is a good hearted person, they have resorted to slandering and libeling that person the members in good standing. They have to turn their public's belief around 180 degrees to convince them to disconnect from said "evil doer"
This takes place in several forms:
A) the publishing of the SP declare
This still occurs, but it is a private affair, the showing the SP declare to the public person (or staff member) in the privacy of the MAA /EO/OSAs office. This is an improvement - the declares used to be up on a bulletin board for anyone to see. One time I was walking to the elevator at the lower level of ASHO and there on the bulletin board was a declare on a married couple I was friends with - I called them up and they were not aware that they had been declared.
B) the DA pack
This is a pack (manila folder or booklet) saying all sorts of bad things about the SP in question - for instance - when I was in the throes of my own declare, OSA showed me the DA pack on Marty Rathburn, it had some reports, and evil ints ( intentions) from his auditing session. They have a DA pack on me that they show people. How do I know? People have told me they have seen it.
C) what you posted
I was recently outed on ESMB by an OSA sock, with the purpose of exposing my online name / avatar to the public person, so they could then cherry pick my hostile comments about Hubbard, Miscavage, and the church, to the person to convince him I harbored evil intentions towards the church. In this case they were successful - the person disconnected from me via a lame, lie filled email from his wife.
D) hate sites
They set up these sites that portray there, the SP in the worst possible fashion. Karen #1 recently did a video about her site and the manufactured lies they published. There is plenty written about those site so I won't take them up.
It is a wonder they have not been taken to court for this illegal behavior. For that is what it is - slander and libel.
I just saw an interesting segment on a tv show about the internet. This was about an internet cult, of all things.
This guy is some kind of blogger who also has lots and lots of podcasts on freedomain radio. He advocates disconnecting (defooing; getting away from your Family Of Origin-foo) from family and friends. He's quite quick to get people to go into fault finding mode about whether their loved ones and friends are good for them.
This explains much about scientologists who are 'just taking orders' that result in harming others and ruining lives and families.
How Nazi's Defense of "Just Following Orders" Plays Out in the Mind
Scientific American > By Joshua Barajas, PBS NewsHour February 19, 2016 Modern-day Milgram experiment shows that people obeying commands feel less responsible for their actions http://ift.tt/20MjIfa
PBS: Modern-day Milgram experiment/ Nazi's Defense of "Just Following Orders"
As this is not an announcement regarding ESMB, it probably doesn't really belong in ESMB Public Announcements, but since this is the most visible place I have right now to post, I'll put this here for now and (re)move it later.
Narconon Reviews and Reaching for the Tipping Point will be back. I am not exactly sure when, but I am working on it. It looks like it's going to be a long day, or weekend, for me.
Rather than looking around the net, I'll be focused on a very small part of it (getting the sites back online), so I won't be answering any questions or comments until the sites are back online. Everyone feel free to speculate wildly about what might have happened; I will be amused to see what you come up with - and I will probably need a good laugh (and maybe a drink or two) when this is all over with. :coolwink:
I will start you out with some clues:
I wasn't paid off by the cult to take the sites down.
"I am a Class IV auditor and I have to say that it's a bit of a wonder to me. How the heck did that happen? I’m a teacher, a mentor, a coach an instructor, I’m Class IV auditor... Not totally sure how that came about.
"I can recall, though, 20 years ago looking at a piece of promo for the Academy Levels and saying to myself, HELL NO! That’s looks like way too much work. Later on I started to get auditing and I experienced how bizarre a case could be, and I became even more convinced that an auditor was a very special kind of person who was born that way. How in the world did one know to tame a case?
"But now that I think about it, I think I remember now how it all happened. My friend told me one time that she wanted to get her child audited but that they difficulty finding auditors to audit kids. And man that was a real button for me! I thought WHAT?? The poor kids can’t get auditing? Well then I’ll have to bloody well do it myself. You see I have a thing for kids. I’ll do just about anything for a kid. So I figured I’d confront this training and figure out how to audit.
"Shortly after that the Golden Age of Tech Phase II came out and I went into ASHO and told them that I wanted to be a Class VIII auditor. The registrar looked at me like I had just told him I have a million dollars to spend and did he have any good ideas about how I could do that? He took me through the new training brochure and then I went home, figured out the money and I arrived back a month later to get started.
"I went through Student Hat, Pro TRs and Upper Indocs with no problems (super smooth), and then I got onto the Pro Metering course. I had never operated a meter before, but I had heard plenty about the complexities of the course so I bore down and got ready to get my butt kicked by the infamous machine. Well by my third time through the course, I got a little nervous, I started thinking that maybe my supervisor was passing me because she really liked me a lot. Seriously, I really thought that. But then I thought it all the way through and realized that my supervisor was not crazy and the course actually was that simple.
"After that, I got onto Level 0. Level 0. Wow, do you know how much stuff there is to learn on level 0? There were so many times on that level that I wanted to run away and hide. I remember on my first practice session I looked at my twin and said so I’m supposed to give this PC the command, watch the meter for a read, ack her, write down what she says, watch the meter for more reads and F/Ns, note them down, repeat any commands or give any new commands, keep track of the time and the TA? He looked at me and said, “I’ve never done this before either.” So I said, “Oh well, let’s get started and see how it goes.” Well after about three times through I had it down. I was surprised how it all came together. It was like magic. And I did get it together, and I audited a PC, and watched him transform right before my eyes.
"So after I finished Level 0, I felt like I was what LRH considered one of the most valuable beings on the planet. I continued through Levels I and II and I was producing miracles, and life-changing wins, in my PCs. In fact, one of my PCs on her Level 1 was mid her HQS course at the time -- and after her wins in session, she decided she wanted to be an auditor and purchased her training package through Class V!
ThenI hit Level 3. Level three is like Level 0 on steroids. Holy smokes! On this Level I kept thinking, maybe I should just go do my OT levels and come back and try confronting this later on. Man! The amount of charge that I went through on that level was unbelievable. Level 3 is the make-break point of being an auditor. I had to dig down deep and pull out everything on this one. But I got through, and the auditing part was actually a lot of fun!I felt like a beast when I signed off on that one.
"Okay on to Level 4. Level IV was like the icing on the cake, literally! You know how trouble there is to making a cake, but then you just take some icing sugar, butter and milk, put it in a bowl and bing, you have icing. Well that’s what Level IV was like. It was the dessert after a giant steak and potatoes dinner. Perfecto.
"So what did I get from all of that? The most magical ability that you could ever ask for, the ability to hold my position in space and put order in on the MEST universe. I teach kids and when I go into the classroom everyday, right before my eyes, my students start doing so much better than I’ve ever seen them do. I’d sit with them and just say, look you know, it’s like this, just look at that, get this done and Bob’s your uncle and they’d just go ahead and say, alright Sigrid, and voila, they were able.
"I am having the most fun time teaching that I have ever had and that is no small statement. I have taught some very huge and powerful kids (and many of these you can now find in the Sea Org). I tell you right here and now I am really enjoying it more than ever before because it so much easier to think, communicate, handle and put in order on any part of my job -- because I'm trained.
"My biggest cognition from training is that an auditor has the capability to put his or her own case on the shelf, while he takes another being in session and while in session he handles all the randomity of the PC’s case and the elements of the session and he puts order in on that PC and on the MEST universe and at the end, that PC is a more valuable being. And that is why EVERYONE needs to train. You need to get this. Everyone you come across both in session and in life will be more valuable because you are an auditor. That’s pretty damn good, if you ask me!!
"Of course I must give a very large thank you to all the ASHO supervisors and training department staff. Thank you to the Captain, D of T and the Tech Sec, and everyone else that has helped me become an auditor. And my special thank you to my special life savers the word clearer Rebecca, and Julia, and Julianne -- ahh we had some great times together...And everyone else at ASHO who helps hold down the fort so we can become more valuable beings.
"Thank you to COB for getting out this tech properly so I could launch into this incredible journey.
"And to my very best friend, LRH, WOW! LRH I won’t ask how you figured it out, but I intend to follow the path that you set so that I can have a better understanding of how to free this planet as you want us to do. To LRH!"
Some crazy woman doing a crazy speech about Scientology
I was wondering about charisma and its impact on expansion.
I have never be in presence of El Con, so I don't know if he had charisma; but I guess yes. For me he was not so charismatic on pictures... Even a little disgusting (and, yes, I stayed in $cientology...:duh:)
But I have witnessed the opening and expansion of my local mission and the ED was very charismatic. He was charming, quite handsome, beau parleur as we say in french. He was the archetype of the very good and friendly salesman. And the mission was as he was (friendly, a nice place to be, etc.), the expansion was rapid, the staff were well payed (yes, it has existed in some area!). The mission became an class IV org and was still winning and expanding. All the public was in awe of the ED, everybody was feeling this friendship and was OK to work hard for him on courses or in session.
On the other hand, I have also witnessed the opening of a second mission in my city. The ED and his girlfriend were very friendly but they were absolutely not charismatic. The mission was empty and after 1 or 2 years it closed.
So I think that the sales tech, the advertising or the "ruin" finding are not sufficient in order to have success and expand. It is more based on the behavior and the personality of the persons involved.
Have you also witnessed this situation? Is the success of the orgs or missions linked to exceptional people?
I think its the case. Like in the world outside of $cientology.
Sharone came on the show to walk us through her experience. She was a Scieftologist from the age of 6 and she shares her stories from her childhood in Scientology. Her stories are incredible and ridiculous and unbelievable. She spent time on the Sea Org and was L. Ron Hubbards assistant….sort of.
We return with a truly fascinating tail. An extra long episode but it is worth it. I have always been fascinated with Scientology and Scientologists. Truth be told, I find all religion and believers fascinating. However, particularly Scientology. This topic and interviewee is something that I have been dying to do a piece on for quite some time.
Sharone was only 6 when her family got involved in Scientology. Even then, she had a bad feeling about it all. At 10, she signed a billion year contract to join the Sea-Organization. Naturally. Sharone worked very closely with the infamous L. Ron Hubbard. She was L. Ron's personal assistant of sorts.
Sharone joins the podcast to share her truly incredible time in Scientology, living on the Sea-Org, her relationship with L. Ron Hubbard, escaping Scientology and her subsequent life afterwards. You can read Sharone's blog here and a big shout out to Ex-Scientologists Ireland for putting me in touch. A huge thank you to Sharone for sharing her story.
These are the final paragraphs of a fine article on Hubbard's SiFi writing featured at Tony O's blog. There, we see themes in his fiction writing that abound in Scientology The poor schmuck average Joe rising to God like heights - the dilatant attitude of a man who professes to be a fine researcher, his inability to have any meaningful relationships on a personal nature are sharp criticisms of Hubbard's mental state.
I really suggest you read he article if you haven't, it is very illuminating. Mimsey
The character we discover in Charles Martel is basic to Hubbard’s imaginative creation — it is the man who dominates, who solves, heals, destroys evil and that unworthy of survival, bestows justice in judgment, gives noble quarter, is loved by a single good woman, is attractive to all bad ones, and who receives the honor and worship and respect to which people — his people, whom he has protected and saved — instinctively and rightfully sense of his. It is the dream-Hubbard, the ego-maniac’s version idealized in fantasy. It is the basis of all Hubbard’s adult action and his ultimate goal, however unachievable it is in logic and likelihood, and however unknown to his conscious mind.
It is this aspect of Hubbard in which we find our final understanding of his personality and character. I believe it is possible to postulate the source of this self-obsessed nature — not in engrams, certainly — in what has probably been his subconscious desire to create a work of genuine and lasting artistic or practical worth, of which he is subconsciously convinced he is incapable. This desire and opposing conviction he does not dare reveal to himself in its naked actuality, so that he has buried it and developed a thick protective sheathing against criticism (with which he might subconsciously and despairingly agree) and has sought to achieve his subconscious goal in various, usually abortive activities. This has led to his “exploring,” to his “studies “ in hypnotism, to his postulation of Dianetic “therapy,” to his insufferable ego (see the introduction to the book edition of Final Blackout, for a prime example of this), to his Major Hoople references to past achievements of a largely fictitious nature (see the article by Hubbard, written under a pseudonym, in Air Trails for April, 1949, in which he makes praising reference to his considerable research work in the aeronautical field under discussion — which he most certainly never undertook in any extensive degree), and to each and all of those aspects of the Hubbard nature which have astounded, shocked, and puzzled his acquaintances — Hubbard probably is incapable of true friendship or love for anyone other than himself, excepting a sort of eager dependence, concealed in snobbish condescension, he probably feels toward those who see him in his own terms and treat him accordingly — for so many years. I believe that the final key to this understanding lies in Hubbard’s work, and it is by the various aspects of that work, as delineated clumsily and insuccinctly in this too-brief article, that we arrive at an attitude toward the man and his likely abilities in any field calling for serious, concentrated, detached work. That Hubbard is capable of conceiving a good idea is not, of course, denied — but that he is capable of much worthwhile development of that idea, or that his statements pertaining to results achieved in that development are trustworthy I do challenge — and do deny.
Some Remarks on the Writings of L. Ron Hubbard By William Blackbeard
Scientology has a new expert on religion: Dr. Andras Mate-Toth
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HAMBURG, Germany, Feb. 16, 2016 /PRNewswire/ -- The Church of Scientology Hamburg marked the fourth anniversary of its transformation into an Ideal Scientology Organization by releasing a study that dispels misconceptions about the religion in Germany.
The special presentation featured distinguished guest speaker Dr. Andras Mate-Toth, Chair of the Religion Department and Founder and Director of the Center for Applied Religious Studies at the University of Szeged in Hungary.
In the course of researching his 2003 and 2008 studies of Hungarian Scientologists, Dr. Mate-Toth visited the Church of Scientology of Frankfurt where he offered to do a similar study on German Scientologists. He then carried out his study in 2013 and 2014, with hundreds of Scientologists from throughout Germany participating in his extensive survey.
I just learned Elaine Elizabeth Presley was a warrior for Scientology in the 80's in Washington, DC, asked to sign a billion year agreement told by an ex Scientologist from the 80's in Washington DC.
She was actually under her adopted name then, not sure of it.
Sure, it’s a classic smear campaign, and it’s pretty obvious who’s behind it. Karen decided rather than to keep quiet that she would make a video about it, and talk about the other things that have been thrown at her — including material right out of her supposedly confidential confessional sessions in the Church of Scientology. Give it a look…
The Church's toxic policy of Disconnection killed my only son
Alexander Jentzsch/ because he had no dad, (imprisoned) no MOM, and cherch manipulated disconnection.
That was not enough for OSA and its dirty Fair Game that is paid for with 501(c)3 tax
exempt dollars.
We had the Squirrel Busters come to our house accompanied by armed bodyguards. Why do
they need armed bodyguards to communicate?
We have received letters with baseless allegations from OSA's donkey
attorneys.
The Cherch has wasted taxpayer dollars making "anonymous" false reports to city and
county agencies about my pets and home.
I had a lawsuit. The trial was last September. It concerned a 1998 second trust deed on my home of $125,000 and had nothing to do with the Church. It was a real estate issue. The loan was a usurious loan transaction at 14.5 interest rate and my opponent wanted $785,000. He got $149,000. I won.
My lawsuit had zero to do with Scientology. But filings are public record and Scientology
Inc went after this court case for blood. They showed up so often to opposing counsel with smear and slime on me from my confessional folders, they said, that opposing Counsel asked my Counsel “How do I get the Church of Scientology to stop showing up and interfering with this real Estate case ?
At the start of trial opposing Counsel told the Judge that the “Church” of Scientology had offered to take over the whole legal real estate case to fight me (*destroy them utterly* )Church Counsel would take over and pay
all costs to defeat me. Opposing Counsel refused. The Judge took note.
The Cult sent opposing Counsel the prostitution video..the Cult so wanted to enter the prostitution video into
Court Records! Opposing counsel had the brains and decency to refuse to be a pimp for the cult's slander.
Hell hath no fury than a vicious cult acting out vengeance on a whistle blower they
fail to stop.
This is something I have been meaning to post for quite a while. It seems I was 5 or 6 when, like a light turning on, I was self aware - or have memories of that period. Maybe younger? Some of the things I recall were mundane, some traumatic. Like the big dogs that would run at fences and bark at me, like seeing Wizard of Oz with my parents, and becoming hysterical when the trees were throwing their apples at Dorothy, and me running up and down the aisle screaming my fool head off. Or stepping in a small spring fed stream and being stung by yellow jackets. Or having to wear a tee shirt at the beach because I burned so easily, or throwing a ski pole at my brother and just missing his spine, or dropping a metal bucket on my other brother's head from on top of the roof. Or making my pet duck walk up the hill to our house after letting it swim in the lake. Or walking in the musty smelling Caribou Club that was part of my grandmothers hotel and looking the stuffed moose and antelope head hunting trophies there. or going to Ft. Ticonderoga and seeing the melting glass windows. Flying in a DC 3 and hitting an air pocket and feeling I was in free fall with my stomach in my throat. ( yes, it was a tail dragger)
But those are snatches, the bulk being lost. Like the Edge of Night soap opera playing at the TV in my grandmothers hotel, looking at the actors shocked expressions, then walking off to the kitchen for a glass of milk and try to steal a toll house cookie (or several) then walking back by it, wondering when the cartoons were going to come on as they huddled around the some to be written off actor who lay dying in bed, a tube snaking from his arm. Most of the story has been lost in the mists of the past.
When I ran straight wire or engrams, there wasn't much to find that was new, save one incident, where my father was spanking me for playing with his HO gauge train set ( I think that was my crime - it could have been something else) and me going exterior and laughing at him as he spanked my body, me thinking - you can't catch me.
Does memory need a trigger? As I recalled one of these, another popped up, like the time I wandered in a stream, and came out, my legs covered with leaches.
So, fellow exes and not in's, what were your earliest memories? I have a few I can't recall, like I was told I broke my arm falling of the step on a train in Cleveland. But I was wondering how you can you actually recall?
And for those who have had auditing - did straight wire improve your memory?
Chuck,
My name is ___X____ and I live in Australia. My grandson I believe has been tricked into becoming a member of the church. The bait was a girl he was speaking with over the Internet and also Skpye His friend paid for a return trip to Aptos near Santa Cruz . My daughter went with him to check it out about a course that will be paid for by her step parents and also stay at there house with the girlfriend. My daughter only went to the house once in the week she was there and only at the front door. My grandson stay for another 3 weeks and then returned home to Australia. About 3 weeks later the girlfriend paid for him to return for him to meet the head of Cabrillo college as he was accepted there and need to sign up. He has a visa till Dec 2017 but I believe he needs to get a student visa from Australia. Suppose to return for this on the night of his 18 birthday. He what's nothing to do with his mother and his family. My daughter has reported him missing. My question is this a recruitment for the church and there method to rope people in? How can we get him back to Australia? Do they apart from brainwashing make sure he cannot communicate back home? I said to my daughter that it looks fishy. No one these days shells out return flights etc without getting a return of there investment. Is there any way to rescue him before it's too late?
Can you advise me on the above?
Many thanks
___X_____
Australian Grandparent (13 Feb 2016) wishes Scientology recruitment counter-advice
The former Mrs. Tom Cruise has rebounded with one of the finest performances of her career in ‘Touched With Fire,’ a film about the importance of psychiatry.
In the seven years Katie Holmes spent trapped in her heavily guarded relationship with Tom Cruise, we hardly knew her. The doe-eyed actress with the steely-soft smile landed nary a choice role of note during her high-profile TomKat years, while fans watched her disappear behind a prim bob and a wearied Mona Lisa smile as the paparazzi flashes popped.
That’s why, when she split from Cruise in 2012 after nearly six years of marriage, the world exhaled on her behalf. But when the newly single Holmes returned to the acting game, she notched mostly disappointing results. Now—finally—Holmes is rebuilding her movie career with her best starring role in a decade. Even better: her new pro-psychiatry film is a giant middle finger to Cruise’s beloved Church of Scientology.
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So it’s not hard to guess that Holmes’s ex and his Scientology crew probably won’t give rave reviews to the new indie drama Touched With Fire, about two bipolar poets who meet and fall in love while stuck in the same psychiatric ward.
Given the reach and fearsome reputation of the Church, it’s no small gesture to see Holmes, newly freed of the shadow of Scientology, taking on a film whose messages include an unequivocal endorsement of psychiatry—let alone one with such a clear message. The 37-year-old stars as Carla, a bipolar poet who checks herself into a psych ward during a particularly intense episode. There, she meets another bipolar patient, Marco (Luke Kirby), who goes by the name “Luna” and believes he’s from another planet.
Together they ponder the link between mental illness and creative artistry, fall in love, reject their meds, make manic art and love, and send their concerned families into a panic as they try to make a life together sans treatment.
It all comes crashing down as their lives-off-meds spiral out of control, one mania-induced crisis after another. Author and psychologist Kay Redfield Jamison, who penned the book that writer-director Paul Dalio based the film on, even makes a cameo as herself advocating better bipolar living through medication.
“I gained a greater empathy for people who are struggling with mental illness,” Holmes told More last month. “Before the movie, I’d hear something about it and think, ‘Wow. But that’s over there.’ Unfortunately, we’re quick to judge, especially in this day of social media and the Internet—which I think is an ugly-maker. Everybody looks ugly when they’re on the Internet. But I wouldn’t want to live a flat life, with no pain.”
Scientology management is really falling apart. Paul Burkhart, the newest defector from Scientology’s international management is telling his story on the Underground Bunker, thread here: http://ift.tt/1TZJYTs
I think his observations of what has happened the last few years is worthy of it's own thread.
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“I don’t think you know this name. But you should,” he said. “She’s literally the key person in Scientology now.”
Kerry Ibert’s title is typically Scientological. She’s the “CO CMO IXU.” That stands for the “Commanding Officer of the Commodore’s Messengers Organization, Internal Extension Unit.”
“Since all the other top managers have been sent up to the Hole, Kerry is running things. She is the person who runs every muster at the HGB, and Miscavige dictates to a woman named Tracye Danilovich who in turn gives those instructions to Kerry Ibert, and she gives them to the people actually running the orgs around the world,” Burkhart says.
“The reason that she is significant is that all of the other people have been sent to the Hole. She has hung in there despite all that, and if she was sent to the Hole, I don’t know that there’s anyone there who could run all those people,” he adds.
The purpose of this blog is not to cast aspersions on a religion that most people know every little about. Our purpose is to raise concern about the regime of Yaya Jammeh’s fray into the unknown, led by a band of inexperienced group of individuals who use Gambian Embassies abroad in the guise of courting foreign investors.
But before we do so, we’d like to say a word or two about the Church of Scientology that has recently co-sponsored a gathering in Washington DC in conjunction with Black History Month. Gambian citizens resident in Washington who were RSVPed to attend but later dis-invited when it was discovered that they belonged to a group of activists opposed to the tyrannical regime of Yaya Jammeh, the dictator who’d recently changed the name of his country to the Islamic Republic of The Gambia.
Scientology was recently ruled a religion in U.K. courts but in some parts of Germany, Scientology is banned. In the U.S., its status is unclear but it has gained a significant foothold among the Hollywood class with many big name stars like Tom Cruise, Issac Hayes and John Trivolta are claimed to be members of the Church of Scientology.
According to the Church’s literature, “Scientology is a religion that offers a precise path to a complete and certain understanding of one’s true spiritual nature…” It also teaches that “man is an immortal spiritual being” whose “experience extends well beyond a single lifetime.”
The Gambia’s 21-year dictatorial rule under one of Africa’s most brutal and corrupt has managed to sullied the image of a once respected democratic enclave in a sea of strong-man rule that prevailed in earlier years. As a result of the horrendous human rights record of Yaya Jammeh, development assistance from the European Union has been frozen and funds held in escrow until certain demands are met – demands relating to the continued tortures, forced exiles, disappearances and false imprisonments of dissidents and opponents, real and perceived.
The regime is essentially financially insolvent and thus schemes are being concocted, on the fly, in desperate attempts at looking for “prospective investors” to invest in a country that is at the bottom of the table of The World Bank’s “Doing Business” in Africa and around the world. In a country where the investment climate is not bad but hostile to foreign investors.
As we speak, there are two arbitration cases pending before the World Bank’s International Center for the Settlement of Investment Disputes (ICSID) and one judgement against the regime involving a mining concession which they’ve asked the ICSID to review. Some of these unsavory characters who pose as government investment promoters have gone to the extent of adopting fictitious royal titles (like Prince Ebrahim) using the Embassy of The Gambia in Washington as cover with the intention of targeting the unsuspecting and gullible investors in the United States. Buyers beware.
From "Scientologists back in comm", something which points out interesting parallels between Scientology-brand totalitarianism, and another flavor.
Someone who is “under the radar” has sent this in. He or she grew up in the Chinese cultural revolution. The parallels to where we find ourselves now with the church are striking.
And by the way, the very fact that “under the radar” has become a common expression tells us how idiotic and non-Scientological this entire scene has become.
As a child, I lived through the Cultural Revolution in China. It was a very fearful and stressful time.
Our close knit family worked hard to make a better life. We were relatively well-off and well educated. Because of this we were seen as a threat to the revolution. Lesser
(and un-) educated communist party members – who were ardent ‘revolutionaries’ – suddenly held immense power and they proceeded to ‘divide and conquer’ our family in the name of the revolution. These revolutionaries believed that they were doing the right thing in order to protect the majority of people’s freedoms.
The ‘Red Guard’ – made up of young, idealistic, teenagers and young adults with limited education, no experience and no understanding of life had free reign to enforce ‘revolutionary ideals’ on the people. They would act on any report and they seldom investigated. We lived in fear of being ‘found out’.
Our whole extended family was eventually investigated – under threat of punishment for the serious crime of being ‘against the revolution’. Some of my close family were labelled (with a sign around their neck) as being ‘anti-revolutionary’ and made to clean streets and were spat on and mistreated – in one case for almost a year. Many lost their jobs or were prevented from holding an important position. My father was put into a re-education camp for almost two years – although convicted of nothing. He had to write up what he had done that was counter-revolutionary, and do a re-education program until he had admitted to ‘all that he had done wrong’.
My mother was often ‘interviewed’ and was encouraged to divorce him. Other family members were told to have nothing to do with them. It was not good to be connected to an ‘anti-revolutionary’. We were all powerless. Everyone lived in fear. Once ‘caught’ there was no way out of the ‘anti-revolutionary justice system’. Even the proper ‘justice’ channels did not work. There was no real justice – just the ‘revolution’. There was no truth – just an acceptable ‘revolutionary’ version. Common sense and good manners and thoughtfulness were replaced by revolutionary ideals and fervour. The revolution became more important than the people it was supposed to help.
In the name of the revolution our family was sent to different (small) towns around China. Some never came back.
The incomprehensible thing is: that the cultural revolution was meant to be for the people and to improve the lives of the people. It just did not.
Here is a list of things that actually occurred during the Cultural revolution (in no particular order).
Where else have you seen similar things happen? Possibly in your church?
Questioning the leadership will end up in trouble. Do not ask questions. Just don’t.
• The ‘old’ conservative, experienced leadership is replaced by new leaders, loyal only to the revolution and its leader.
• People live in fear of being accused of not agreeing with the leadership – so they keep quiet and try not to be noticed.
• No personal initiatives are tolerated – only orders from ‘above’ have any value.
• Can’t trust anybody – as anything you say can and will be used as evidence against you.
• People are ‘encouraged’ to write reports on others – especially for not supporting the ‘revolution’.
• No personal opinions allowed – just say what everybody else says.
• No personal thoughts allowed – just think what you are told to think.
• The State has complete power over you, your family, your life.
• While there is Mao’s ‘red book’ of guiding policy and also party policy, many ‘orders’ from above are arbitrary and ignore policy, and often are based on someone’s personal opinion or for their personal gain.
• People too scared to fight it. There is no real justice system.
• If one family member is labelled as being ‘against the revolution’ the rest of the family is told to disconnect.
• Many families, friends and colleagues are ‘encouraged’ to split up.
• Anybody not disconnecting will also be labelled as…. ‘against the revolution’
• Those deemed as not too dangerous are re-educated (under threat) until they are considered as supporting the revolution. They are made to write up exactly what they did wrong during re-education. This can be used against them at a later stage, if necessary.
• People not permitted to read / talk about what is happening outside China. Tight control of communication and information to prevent anti-revolutionary thoughts.
• Only revolutionary books permitted, as permitted by the leadership.
• Only ‘acceptable’ truths are communicated – bad news or negative reports are not acceptable (even if true).
• The Communist party and the revolution (group) are more important than individual.
• Crimes committed in the name of the revolution are perfectly acceptable.
• The Red Guard enforces party policy (or whatever they want). Harshly.
• The Leader is regarded as the saviour of China. His loyal followers cheer and clap and cry and faint when they see him at mass rallies. They believe his every word.
Many years have passed and the Cultural Revolution is now long gone but in some ways see a similar story playing in the church – the way that the church operates, and the way that people are treated.
Only once the revolution had passed and freedoms returned did China become successful.
Lari Hazanovich was born 20 years ago into a Scientology family. Both his parents, Yulia and Gershon, started on lines at Dror Center just before Lari was born. The family later moved to Tel Aviv and Yulia joined staff at the Tel Aviv Org. Lari was raised as a Scientologist, and a very eager one. When 15, he left home and country to join the Sea Org and become staff at the Flag Service Org.
Lari served three years at Flag until he has had enough of it, “The abuse, arbitraries, out-Tech and off-Policy I witnessed daily”, he says. Lari routed out of staff to return home to his family and home to Israel. He is now a soldier with the Israeli Army.
As soon as Lari returned home, he got back on lines at the Tel Aviv Org to continue his Bridge progress as a public. “They were quick to take my money, but then, no delivery”, Lari says. His father, Gershon, tells us he too paid large sums for auditing, but again, the TAV Org refused to deliver. Lari’s mother, Yulia, left staff after five years of broken promises.
Mid-2015 the family decided to come back to their Scientology origins, get back on lines at Dror Center. All three are now happily moving up the Bridge. Lari recently completed his Objectives Processes, he excitedly shared his wins with us in three languages – Hebrew, Russian and English. Here is Lari:
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Lari Hazanovich has left the Church of Scientology and joined the Dror IS Center
Excellent interview I have not seen before and just went viral today; Denise Brennan and Steven Hassan (two incredible human beings who expose cults and Scientology).
Denise Brennan worked at the highest level of the Church of Scientology - in the legal department. She hired the cock roaches and spent MILLIONS on them - so they can create a corporate sham to protect the money. Hear what she says about the ole man - El Con Huubard.
Denise is a transgender and came out a few years ago. She was known as Lawrence Brennan inside Scientology and worked hiring the legal teams to Keep Scientology Working - so this so called "Cherch" could get away with the crimes against humanity, including, but limited to: Bankrupting members and never accounting for one penny to anyone and Human Trafficking for slave labor camps known as the Sea Org.
Religious Cloaking was used.
Denise came clean and confessed her transgressions. She did not know at the time what Scientology did to people. When she did find out - she did the right thing and spoke out.
God Bless people like Denise Brennan. It took courage and strength to tell the truth.
Scientology Sea Org Whistle Blower blows the lid off of the Scientological Secrets
Oh yes, they talk the talk - past lives, coming back, 7th dynamic, blah blah blah - but their actions belie their words.
As a whole, $cns are the meanest, cruelest group around. Yes, there are good members - but they soon leave or get suppressed by the demands of the whole to disconnect, bankrupt the family, abandon the children to be on course, sell the children into slavery (SO), ...
They treat others with disdain, have no compassion or concern for those in need, are rude, self-righteous and thoroughly without integrity when it comes to doing anything to "move up the Bridge."
They are about money, MEST and status, not good acts.
They wear their illiteracy about the real world around them as a badge of honor.
Their spiritual endeavors help no one - not even themselves.
Truly spiritual beings practice inclusion, love and forgiveness. $cns practice exclusion, hatred and punishment.
The best thing I can say about $cns is that their lies, deceipts and cruelty motivate me to be a better person outside of their world. To treat even a criminal $cn with kindness is to take away their power to control by fear.
Until very recently I had never heard of Synanon. The more I look, the more I think there is a possibility that Synanon was an inspiration for Scientology's Narconon. I don't know for sure, but there are some interesting parallels and intersections. If anyone else finds something by all means post it.
Oh, and there is also The Seed program. Interesting parallels there as well.
On Synanon.....
Robert L. DuPont, Jr., MD is the founding director of the National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA) and is also the second White House Drug Czar. While director of NIDA he administered funds for an experimental, juvenile drug rehabilitation program in Fort Lauderdale, Florida called The Seed. Later the U. S. Senate would issue a report likening the methods employed by The Seed to Communist brainwashing. Soon after that report was released Melvin and Betty Sembler and some other former Seed parents opened their own Seed-like program in Saint Petersburg, Florida which they called Straight, Inc. After leaving NIDA Dr. DuPont became a paid consultant for Straight and frequently represented Straight in civil suits for which he was well paid. In one of those suits, in 1993, Dr. DuPont testified that the progenitor of the Straight method was a place called Synanon which he even admitted was a cult! He testified that those places which used Synanon's methods are called therapeutic communities and that there are two cardinal rules for these therapeutic communities: No Sex and No Violence. But was there no sex and no violence at Synanon? And what was Synanon anyway? Let's take a look at Synanon Church and then we'll come back and look at DuPont's testimony and statements of others to see that Straight and other so-called confrontational-type therapeutic communities, are based on technologies developed at Synanon Church.....
.....His organization, called Synanon Foundation, treated recovering heroin addicts. You can't con a con, telling your dirty story, confession, parent weekend, anal/vaginal searches, verbal shouting matches, synamasters, no newcomer contact with parents, parents taking someone else's kids to the doctor, warehouses, kids cussing, thought control, beatings--it all came from Synanon Church.....
......In the mid 70s Synanon had declared itself a church. This photo shows Chucks' wife Betty Dederich, a former prostitute and high priestess of Synanon Church, and his daughter Jady along with a woman named Barbara. According to the bookThe Light on SynanonSynanites met with Scientologists (who have their own church-related drug rehab program called Narconon) in the 1970s to discuss common issues........
Welcome Paul Burkhart - announced on the Bunker this am. Paul Burkhart - a Sea Org staff that worked as a slave for David Miscavige for his real estate holdings. Find out how David Miscavige wasted millions of OUR donation dollars to renovate Building 50 on the Int Base and then never occupied it.
More proof of the HOLE and David Miscavige's verocious appetite to spend money on nothing of any value to anyone except his EGO. May the IRS shut this cult down! So much proof of that he is using the money for his own personal use. SHUT SCIENTOLOGY DOWN!~
I chose the word "questionable" to be in the thread title for a reason. It's because I am not making any certain pronouncements. I actually do not know with any one hundred percent certainty the true foundation for Scientology, or of any other influence on it. I have just seen enough information to have questions. I'd love for this to be a dynamic, debate filled, informational sharing thread. We'll see....
The first thing I've got is a mid to late 19th century gentleman named Stephen Pearl Andrews and a book that he wrote:
Quotes from the book:
Scientology is therefore Universology developed in the spirit of the Exact Sciences, and is wholly new in kind. It is the Core or Centre and the most distinctive Department of Universology… (page 37)
Scientology will re-assert and vindicate… Spiritualistic Realities and Tendencies…
(page 146)
It will be the supreme triumph of Scientology, the Exact Branch of this new Universal Science, to exhibit in Diagram, and by illustrative object-teaching, all the Root-thoughts of which the Human Mind is capable… (page 165)
A friend of mine turned me on to MgCl, aka magnesium chloride, or Chlor-Mag.
One problem with magnesium compounds is that they are absorbed very slowly into the system. But Chlor-Mag is quickly absorbed.
I have a jar of Chlor-Mag powder. I was advised to just mix it with water and drink it, but it tastes terrible, so I put it into capsules. However it is extremely hygroscopic -- it absorbs water from the atmosphere until it turns into green liquid mush. So I open the jar, dry the stuff out in the oven, load up some capsules quickly, dry them both out in the oven again, then put the capsules into an air-tight plastic jar with a silica gel packet.
So far, it made some stiff muscles (particularly in my neck) go away. There will probably be more visible benefits later on.
In Magnitogorsk, the worker seized explosives and books on Scientology
This was reported in the press service of the FSB of the Chelyabinsk region.
FSB officers seized during searches in the working Magnitogorsk Metallurgical Combine 5 kg of finished explosives, 50 kg of reagents and books on Scientology.
- Employees of the FSB of Russia in the Chelyabinsk region arrested a resident of the South Ural city, equipped with a laboratory in his apartment for the production of explosives. 49-year-old worker MMK in his spare time was producing a home explosives, chemicals for which the acquired retail chains, - the press service of the FSB of the Chelyabinsk region.
In order to prevent release of the possibility of finding a home chemistry lab products in the shops of JSC "MMK" FSB officers, together with colleagues from the police conducted an inspection of industrial premises, where the explosives were found.
In addition to explosives and its components at the inhabitant of Magnitogorsk found Scientology literature.
- In recent years, law enforcement agencies faced with the penetration of the "overseas" doctrine in an increasingly wider society. Police officers do not rule out that Scientology, came to Russia from the United States, also known as the "science of the mind", inspiring followers of the idea "of a worldwide conspiracy against them and their sense of chosenness," served as a metallurgist guide the desire to "subjugate the world" crime - added to the FSB.
Materials operational-investigative activity FSB transferred to the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia in Magnitogorsk for the initiation of criminal proceedings for offenses under articles "Illegal manufacture of explosives" and "illegal acquisition, possession of explosives."
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Russia: Man seized with explosives and books on Scientology
